tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post5501351414675983296..comments2024-03-27T21:42:56.131-05:00Comments on 1001plus: Oscar Got It Wrong!: Best Picture 2001SJHoneywellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-72571625624055768152015-03-28T21:54:03.966-05:002015-03-28T21:54:03.966-05:00I genuinely disliked Gosford Park despite being ab...I genuinely disliked <i>Gosford Park</i> despite being able to recognize the skill with which it was made. <br /><br /><i>In the Bedroom</i> is pretty spectacular. It's very much worth your time, but it's not a happy film by any stretch. SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-4963592230481740302015-03-28T14:59:49.179-05:002015-03-28T14:59:49.179-05:00I like some of the movies mentioned quite a bit, e...I like some of the movies mentioned quite a bit, especially <i>Amelie</i>, <i>The Royal Tennenbaums</i>, <i>Spirited Away</i> and <i>Gosford Park</i>. But it seems like there's something missing for 2001 because I don't remember ever deciding which of these is better than the other three. Which must mean something came out in 2001 that I like better than any of these.<br /><br />I went over to IMDB to look at my Favorite Films, Year-By-Year list and I have <i>The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra</i> for 2001. I can understand why nobody else has brought it up. But, man, I sure do love <i>The Lost Skeleton of Cadavra</i>.<br /><br />Ignoring my <i>Lost Cadavra</i> mania, I'd probably go with <i>Spirited Away</i>.<br /><br />Sticking to the choices offered by the Academy, I'd go with <i>Gosford</i>, but I've never seen <i>In the Bedroom</i> or <i>Moulin Rouge</i>. Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17921029597363212734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-22212283394604269102014-07-19T19:34:36.450-05:002014-07-19T19:34:36.450-05:00I can live with that. I realize I'm in a minor...I can live with that. I realize I'm in a minority on it. SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-46416700845964950072014-07-18T23:00:36.112-05:002014-07-18T23:00:36.112-05:00I love Amelie, too. However, I am not pleased tha...I love Amelie, too. However, I am not pleased that you dissed Moulin Rouge--not one bit!Kimberly J.M. Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09078951928157843937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-26662997238443354902014-07-15T15:09:08.858-05:002014-07-15T15:09:08.858-05:00I knew that was an easy sell for you.I knew that was an easy sell for you.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-29266532406920630872014-07-15T10:18:47.166-05:002014-07-15T10:18:47.166-05:00Hell yes to Alan Rickman.Hell yes to Alan Rickman.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08092564511948736386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-69402712179633787632014-07-15T06:08:24.561-05:002014-07-15T06:08:24.561-05:00I haven't (yet) seen Training Day, but the oth...I haven't (yet) seen <i>Training Day</i>, but the other ones are good calls. <br /><br />The first few <i>Harry Potter</i> films probably didn't deserve nominations, but the later ones did. Of everyone in those films, Alan Rickman is the person mostly badly and seriously snubbed by the Academy. SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-80067287306105961612014-07-15T00:22:31.471-05:002014-07-15T00:22:31.471-05:00Fuck Gosford Park. God, I hate that movie. It shou...Fuck Gosford Park. God, I hate that movie. It shouldn't even be on the list, though I'd definitely put it at #5. I also happen to really like Moulin Rouge, which should be surprise to nobody. (Tango de Roxanne is probably my all-time favorite scene in a movie, just from an editing standpoint alone. It gives me chills every time I watch it.)<br /><br />I've not seen In the Bedroom. It's been a long time since I've seen A Beautiful Mind, so I can't really comment there, at least not accurately. Fellowship is good, but I can't give it the win here. Of all the movies you brought up, no, I don't think Harry Potter should have been nominated. But my favorite of the bunch is probably Spirited Away. At least that got Animated.<br /><br />Amelie is a strong choice, though. Other films not mentioned? Memento. Training Day. Ocean's 11. Memento and Ocean's are long shots, but Training Day? Definitely a contender.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08092564511948736386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-86626456332995774562014-07-13T22:19:15.865-05:002014-07-13T22:19:15.865-05:00Yeah, I liked No Man's Land just fine, but not...Yeah, I liked <i>No Man's Land</i> just fine, but not on a par with <i>Amelie</i>. Of course, I don't think many things are on a par with <i>Amelie</i>. <br /><br />I'm kind of with you on twists. It's one of the reasons that I have a great deal of respect for films like <i>Fight Club</i> and <i>The Crying Game</i> which are both deep and effective even if you know the twist. The twist in those films are great the first time you see them, but if you know the twists, you can still enjoy the films just as much, just in a different way. <i>The Sixth Sense</i>, for instance, relies so heavily on the twist ending that there's not much there after one or two viewings. <br /><br />I still think we need the trilogy to judge each film. Unlike a lot of other trilogies, <i>LotR</i> was very much a single story. And for the record, I like <i>Return of the King</i> slightly more (slightly) than <i>Fellowship</i>, but I love both. In fact, I love all three, but there is a dip in the middle. <br /><br />I agree that it didn't deserve all 11 Oscars, and Belleville Rendezvous is the damn poster child for that. There's no way it should have lost.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-91953919741550845802014-07-13T22:11:39.425-05:002014-07-13T22:11:39.425-05:00I was so knocked sideways by In the Bedroom. I kne...I was so knocked sideways by <i>In the Bedroom</i>. I knew nothing about it but the cast going in, and it works so well all the way through and on all levels. <br /><br />Crowe is great in <i>A Beautiful Mind</i>, but there's just nothing there after a first viewing.<br /><br />Nice comment on <i>I am Sam</i>. Took me a minute, but...SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-35452595190143974852014-07-13T19:08:26.395-05:002014-07-13T19:08:26.395-05:00FOTR is my favorite of the trilogy and would have ...FOTR is my favorite of the trilogy and would have been my pick. Amelie is charming and a good alternate choice. Tropic Thunder summed up my opinion of I Am Sam. I saw Beautiful Mind the one time, I own a copy and Crowe is terrific but I've never felt a strong need to return to it. In the Bedroom might be my second favorite. Every performance was great in that film. Tom Wilkinson breaks my heart.Richard Kirkhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16428986542891346618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-3310705706967534072014-07-13T18:52:21.569-05:002014-07-13T18:52:21.569-05:002001 was a really great year for movies. Like you...2001 was a really great year for movies. Like you, I absolutely love Amelie and now having seen the Best Foreign Language Film winner, Oscar fucked up there, too. I actually consider this year one of the worst travesties for what won vs what should have won (like some people look at Crash or Shakespeare in Love - both of which I hold in higher regard than A Beautiful Mind.)<br /><br />Any time a film relies on a surprise twist for it to be entertaining I tend to downgrade it - regardless of whether I figure out the twist or not. (For the record, I did on this film.) That makes A Beautiful Mind one I'd put at or near the bottom of the ballot among the five nominees.<br /><br />I'd also go with FOTR as the Best Picture, but I respectfully disagree that it could not be properly judged before the entire trilogy was out. I feel that the entire trilogy hinged on the success of this film. It had, BY FAR, the hardest job of the three: it had to get general audience and critics to take a movie about elves, dwarves, and an enchanted ring seriously AND it had to satisfy the millions of people who had read the books. It succeeded brilliantly across the board. Critics loved this film and amazingly, so did most of the hardcore book fans. Once this film established the serious cred, the other films were left free to simply entertain. Like with many actors/actresses who had deserved an Oscar for a superior, earlier role over the one they belatedly won for, Jackson just had to not screw the pooch on the next two and the Best Picture Oscar was his. Jackson won the Best Picture not for The Return of the King, but for the entire trilogy. In fact, more than one of that film's 11 for 11 wins that night probably deserved to go to other nominees (i.e. Belleville Rendezvous rather than Into the West for Best Original Song).Chip Laryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00787403805554027107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-59578689575429620492014-07-13T15:33:52.354-05:002014-07-13T15:33:52.354-05:00Yep. I think that's absolutely true, and had i...Yep. I think that's absolutely true, and had it been a stand-alone film, I'd have had far less of a problem with it winning.<br /><br />My heart still says <i>Amelie</i>, though.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-71588821117953998432014-07-13T13:40:29.487-05:002014-07-13T13:40:29.487-05:00I would agree that Jackson won for the whole trilo...I would agree that Jackson won for the whole trilogy. Had Fellowship been a stand-alone film, I think it would have had a much better chance.Ipecachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15157560182505626755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-8852100342342120182014-07-12T00:50:38.454-05:002014-07-12T00:50:38.454-05:00I stand by the claim that it really couldn't b...I stand by the claim that it really couldn't be evaluated until we'd seen the whole trilogy. When Jackson won, I'd argue he won for the trilogy and not just <i>Return of the King</i>. <br /><br />That said, if everyone agreed with me, there'd be no need for comments. Oh, and don't forget that I'm an idiot.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-36555834534142498042014-07-12T00:27:56.197-05:002014-07-12T00:27:56.197-05:00You won't be surprised that I agree with your ...You won't be surprised that I agree with your choice of the five, Fellowship, but I disagree with your ultimate choice, which should also have been Fellowship.<br /><br />Best of the three Lord of the Rings movies, and that's saying something. Nearly perfect movie as important in its way as Star Wars.<br /><br />(My daughter LOVES Moulin Rouge. I do not, although I do really love Ewan McGregor.)Ipecachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15157560182505626755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-13667203378064989412014-07-11T16:41:26.729-05:002014-07-11T16:41:26.729-05:00Well, I don't want to upset you, but according...Well, I don't want to upset you, but according to the first reply, you might well be an idiot, too.<br /><br />Some years, Oscar just gets it very wrong.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-44195776937753745082014-07-11T16:34:32.940-05:002014-07-11T16:34:32.940-05:00Great post here. I too thought the 2001 Oscars wer...Great post here. I too thought the 2001 Oscars were a very poor reflection of the movies that came out that here. Tenenbaums, Amelie, The Devil's Backbone, Ghost World, and many of the others you listed are such fine films that deserved more recognition. Oscar fucked up, indeed.Alex Withrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15887018476048271594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-37134095568519057042014-07-11T16:21:32.489-05:002014-07-11T16:21:32.489-05:00The Sixth Sense offers a mountain of clues and is ...<i>The Sixth Sense</i> offers a mountain of clues and is great on a second viewing. After that, it's got nothing for you. As for <i>Fight Club</i>, it's a different movie every time I watch it. I've never gotten tired of it.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-28235740377042718812014-07-11T15:44:40.633-05:002014-07-11T15:44:40.633-05:00I admit that A Beautiful Mind had me fooled the fi...I admit that A Beautiful Mind had me fooled the first time I saw it. The second time I watched it I really looked for clues that I missed the first time, such as the birds not scattering when the little girl runs around them. I think the audience wanted what Nash to see was real (at least I did) so much that we may have thrown away logic and believed something we probably should have seen through. Of course, maybe Fight Club or The Sixth Sense may not be as good the second time around either. 1001: A Film Odyssey is produced, directed and written by Chris, a librarian.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04803620768028761898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-46356462115200287192014-07-11T14:37:44.082-05:002014-07-11T14:37:44.082-05:00I don't entirely disagree, but I'd love to...I don't entirely disagree, but I'd love to have some context for that comment.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-78283871113329700422014-07-11T14:37:06.774-05:002014-07-11T14:37:06.774-05:00I have no idea. Ghost World is one of my favorite ...I have no idea. <i>Ghost World</i> is one of my favorite graphic novel-to-screen conversions. My guess is that The List isn't a big fan of graphic novels. They seem to hate superhero films in general, and appear to be of the opinion that graphic novel = superheroes, which is, of course, stupid. SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-5647195210357683752014-07-11T14:35:24.236-05:002014-07-11T14:35:24.236-05:00I'm going to guess that the one you haven'...I'm going to guess that the one you haven't seen is <i>In the Bedroom</i>. It's worth tracking down. <br /><br />It is kind of an off year. I'm not surprised <i>A Beautiful Mind</i> won. I didn't even completely disagree the first time I saw it. It just doesn't work on a second viewing.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-33906555006921034302014-07-11T13:40:40.001-05:002014-07-11T13:40:40.001-05:00I agree with you completely, Steve. Both Ghost Wor...I agree with you completely, Steve. Both Ghost World and Amelie had far more Best Picture potential than any of those nominated. I have seen both countless times and enjoyed them every single time. In a good an fair world they would have been the two fighting over the prize. <br />Why is Ghost World not even on the List?<br /> TSorensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12208153011927807857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-23740032738745310092014-07-11T12:49:59.033-05:002014-07-11T12:49:59.033-05:00The Fellowship of the Ring is my favorite of the t...The Fellowship of the Ring is my favorite of the three LOTR films, and I agree that it's the best of the four that I've seen. I do like Gosford Park more than you (and A Beautiful Mind), but I don't think either of those deserved the top prize. There were a lot of great films in 2001, but few of them really scream "OSCAR!" They were bound to screw up this year. Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12351431577484530230noreply@blogger.com