tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post6409172377256252601..comments2024-03-27T21:42:56.131-05:00Comments on 1001plus: Messiah Complex BluesSJHoneywellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-69857959660240288252015-11-11T22:48:15.721-06:002015-11-11T22:48:15.721-06:00This is one that I think I'd like to revisit. ...This is one that I think I'd like to revisit. There's something here that's better than it has any right to be, and I'd like to figure out what that is.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-42602074088952185392015-11-11T02:27:04.903-06:002015-11-11T02:27:04.903-06:00Despite being a non-believer I liked Ordet a lot, ...Despite being a non-believer I liked Ordet a lot, primarily for the emotional rollercoaster it is. Yes, it asks us to accept religion, but it is also very critical about dogmatism and labels. I cannot say that I truly grasp or accept the ending at face value, but I think I do not really need to.<br />Everything here looks old and backwards for a reason, same as the priest and the doctor look sleek and modern. It is like when you head out to a very remote location and feel like stepping 50 years back in time.<br />A modern equivalent to the story is a UFO landing in the midst of civilization and turning everything we thought was right upside down. TSorensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12208153011927807857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-67186377965188376102013-07-02T19:41:04.447-05:002013-07-02T19:41:04.447-05:00Yeah, I think I see that. Passion is my favorite o...Yeah, I think I see that. <i>Passion</i> is my favorite of his without question, although I liked <i>Ordet</i> I think as much as a heretic like me can.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-36983857211282352892013-07-02T18:29:52.127-05:002013-07-02T18:29:52.127-05:00Ordet is my favorite of Dreyer's film. I find ...Ordet is my favorite of Dreyer's film. I find that early section has a wry sense of humor about the general pettiness and arrogance of religious people. And the second section Dreyer goes 100% for a potent religious argument that defies the pettiness of these religious people who can't even begin to see the astounding nature of what they profess to believe. I get why you wouldn't enjoy that aspect, Dreyer doesn't gives very little ambiguity or out to non-religious viewers, unlike Passion which can be seen more generally as a film about holding any kind of personal belief. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-20595647483463710752013-06-27T23:51:12.732-05:002013-06-27T23:51:12.732-05:00I kind of did, too. I can't admit to loving it...I kind of did, too. I can't admit to loving it, but I didn't mind the pace through most of it. And the end is creepy, even if Dreyer didn't mean it to be creepy.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-23498140385753836342013-06-27T20:38:36.864-05:002013-06-27T20:38:36.864-05:00Though I do not have a religious bone in my body, ...Though I do not have a religious bone in my body, I thoroughly enjoyed Ordet precisely because of the film's audacious ending. While Dreyer's intention may well have been sincerely religious - i'm happy to think of it as bordering the horror/zombie genre as well.Klaushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05006608076041962884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-42265538485091556342013-06-26T20:56:39.872-05:002013-06-26T20:56:39.872-05:00Ordet has two speeds--slow and stop. I can't h...<i>Ordet</i> has two speeds--slow and stop. I can't help but think it could have been condensed into 80 minutes without too much trouble. <br /><br />As much as I didn't love the whole faith bonanza ending, I did kind of dig the undead/zombie vibe from it at one point.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-82097165951396588602013-06-26T12:02:05.700-05:002013-06-26T12:02:05.700-05:00I'm of the same mind as you on Dreyer. I saw ...I'm of the same mind as you on Dreyer. I saw The Passion of Joan of Arc before I was working on the list and I consider it quite possibly the best silent film I have ever seen. Once actively working on the list, the other Dreyer films in it have made me ask how they could be from the same guy who did the silent film.<br /><br />Ordet falls in that category for me. While at the 50,000 foot level both it and Joan of Arc are about faith, that's about where the similarity ends. Ordet was slow and I didn't much care for its religious message being hammered at me, so it's not one I liked watching.Chip Laryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00787403805554027107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-17770691413842046582013-06-26T11:33:33.526-05:002013-06-26T11:33:33.526-05:00BTW, that should read "drags".BTW, that should read "drags".Kimberly J.M. Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09078951928157843937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-8388010159510990392013-06-26T11:33:03.714-05:002013-06-26T11:33:03.714-05:00Oh, how it rags! But what is one to expect with a...Oh, how it rags! But what is one to expect with a Dreyer film... Dreyer's Calvinism can be off-putting, but there is always something odd/interesting about his message. You like this more than I do, but it is better than Vampyr. Kimberly J.M. Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09078951928157843937noreply@blogger.com