tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post8990990603431516687..comments2024-03-27T21:42:56.131-05:00Comments on 1001plus: Oscar Got It Wrong!: Best Picture 1980SJHoneywellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-69756543758085375552023-09-26T07:40:04.328-05:002023-09-26T07:40:04.328-05:00I agree on The Shining. It's very different fr...I agree on <i>The Shining</i>. It's very different from the book, but it's a damn good movie.<br /><br /><i>Ordinary People</i> is bulletproof. Change the costuming and you could make that movie again with the same script today. SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-9181643342342700762023-09-14T04:25:56.222-05:002023-09-14T04:25:56.222-05:00A belated comment from my side.
I was surprised t...A belated comment from my side. <br />I was surprised to see Ordinary people won Best movie ... Until I watched it. It is a better winner than in most years. <br />The real miss among the nominations is The Shining. It is phenomenal on every level an demonstrated that the Academy still had something to learn.TSorensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12208153011927807857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-27605278381198426562015-12-27T19:15:24.839-06:002015-12-27T19:15:24.839-06:00Good point on Atlantic City. I didn't realize ...Good point on <i>Atlantic City</i>. I didn't realize it when I replied above, but it got all of its nominations in 1981.<br /><br />I'm still not sure it's deserving of them, but that's to be discussed on other posts.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-37395005367203959612015-12-27T19:10:32.683-06:002015-12-27T19:10:32.683-06:00We'll disagree on that. I think a few of these...We'll disagree on that. I think a few of these are definitely worth the nomination. <br /><br />I do love <i>Airplane!</i> and it still makes me laugh just as hard as it always did, but you're right--it would never be nominated.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-13969888274284780322015-12-27T19:09:47.968-06:002015-12-27T19:09:47.968-06:00They do, and I'm not really sure why that'...They do, and I'm not really sure why that's the case. Even if people think <i>Raging Bull</i> deserves the win, it's not like <i>Ordinary People</i> is a terrible winner here.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-50911053639145399222015-12-27T15:57:09.035-06:002015-12-27T15:57:09.035-06:00In all honesty, none of the five nominees really s...In all honesty, none of the five nominees really strike me as truly great movies. I can point to individual things from them like DeNiro's and Spacek's acting, Tess' cinematography, and The Elephant Man's makeup that are fantastic, but as overall movies none of them get me too excited. Of those five I'd say The Elephant Man is the one I consider the best overall film.<br /><br />For sheer entertainment value I'd go with Airplane!, but that kind of movie never gets Best Picture.Chip Laryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00787403805554027107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-66661545165776184722015-12-27T09:24:37.637-06:002015-12-27T09:24:37.637-06:00I love raging bull for Scorcese and De Niro but no...I love raging bull for Scorcese and De Niro but not much besides. It's still very good, but I don't consider it a lock, or having been badly robbed, but you're right, people do talk about this one A LOT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-61425107040040850182015-12-26T23:34:34.006-06:002015-12-26T23:34:34.006-06:00Atlantic City wasn't released until April 1981...Atlantic City wasn't released until April 1981. I didn't see it until earlier this year. Dang, Louis Malle was an amazing filmmaker! I could hardly believe what I was seeing when I saw Zazie dans la Metro and Black Moon recently.Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17921029597363212734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-18044749919302746652015-12-26T21:32:03.130-06:002015-12-26T21:32:03.130-06:00I take no issue with love for The Elephant Man.
...I take no issue with love for <i>The Elephant Man</i>. <br /><br />It's never a bad idea to watch <i>Ordinary People</i>. I'm still surprised by just how much it still can affect me emotionally. SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-55568580605924825182015-12-26T21:31:03.718-06:002015-12-26T21:31:03.718-06:00On an earlier post of this sort, I awarded Best Di...On an earlier post of this sort, I awarded Best Director to Scorsese. I think he deserved it, because, as mentioned above, I thought it was the best storytelling of the year. But not the best story.<br /><br />Donald Sutherland has deserved several nominations, but I'd be hard-pressed to think of one he's deserved <i>more</i> than this.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-77242392171980973672015-12-26T19:41:11.779-06:002015-12-26T19:41:11.779-06:00For me, The Elephant Man should have won this one,...For me, The Elephant Man should have won this one, so I'm so happy to see it rank so high with you! What you say about Ordinary People is so spot on though...it makes me want to watch the film and reevaluate it ASAP!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-50947962625506955972015-12-26T14:33:47.029-06:002015-12-26T14:33:47.029-06:00Raging Bull is a performance in search of a movie....Raging Bull is a performance in search of a movie. I remember Steven Bach writing about the making of Heavan' s Gate that the studio was worried about the Scorsce film and that Robert DeNiro was an uncredited screenwriter on the project. That the movie turned out as well as it did is due to the collaboration of director and star. <br />Ordinary People is fine story and a good film, it doesn't deserve all the crap people give it. You are 100% right that it stands up today as a relevant film. Am I correct in saying that Sutherland has never been nominated? This is a performance that everyone assumes he was nominated for. I've heard him speak of having to correct people on that assumption, that must be tough. <br />Raging Bull does not have repeatability, but The Elephant Man does.David Lynch made all the right choices, it would be my pick from the film's on the list.Richard Kirkhamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16428986542891346618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-5919722579197633162015-12-26T10:47:31.226-06:002015-12-26T10:47:31.226-06:00I didn't love Atlantic City, which is why it d...I didn't love <i>Atlantic City</i>, which is why it didn't get mentioned above. I do like <i>Breaker Morant</i>, though, which is why it did.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-51591938922877538672015-12-26T10:46:36.668-06:002015-12-26T10:46:36.668-06:00Admittedly, my heart goes to Empire, but my head s...Admittedly, my heart goes to <i>Empire</i>, but my head says that Oscar did the right thing here. <br /><br /><i>Ordinary People</i> really is worth your time. Hell of a good story, and a set of actors really on top of their game.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-69512360556569585542015-12-26T09:58:54.828-06:002015-12-26T09:58:54.828-06:00I've seen all these movies and can't reall...I've seen all these movies and can't really fault Oscar. I suppose Raging Bull and Elephant Man are more "artistic" movies but not ones I am really aching to see again. <br /><br />Here are some movies I like more than those on the Oscar nominations list: Atlantic City (my vote would have gone to this); Breaker Morant; Kagemusha; Melvin and Howard; and The Gods Must Be Crazy.marie_dresslerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06334550550983418668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-73940518689676289942015-12-26T09:15:26.692-06:002015-12-26T09:15:26.692-06:00Sigh. I really, really want to tell you that Ragin...Sigh. I really, really want to tell you that Raging Bull should have won this Oscar. I can't say that with any degree of certainty, because I haven't seen Ordinary People. I might have to do so just to settle the debate in my own mind. Then, there's the other thing. Regardless of where I eventually come down on the head-to-head battle between these two films, I'll probably still think Oscar got it wrong because they didn't award, or even nominate, the true Best Picture - The Empire Strikes Back. Yup, I said it. Anyhoo, I'm perplexed.Dellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05634519605152190304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-81655619369413031102015-12-25T15:56:30.676-06:002015-12-25T15:56:30.676-06:00Bluntly, I expect to get some heat for not putting...Bluntly, I expect to get some heat for not putting <i>Raging Bull</i> first. When people talk about past Oscar mistakes, this tends to be in the top ten along with films like <i>Crash</i> and <i>Around the World in 80 Days. Ordinary People</i> is still a very powerful film, and the story is still completely relevant.<br /><br />I agree with you on Donald Sutherland. It's one of his best performances and he's noteworthy in a cast that is all giving career performances--Mary Tyler Moore, Judd Hirsch, and Timothy Hutton are all great, and Sutherland is still often the best thing on screen. How he got skipped I'll never understand. SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-58518712207910531702015-12-25T15:10:49.945-06:002015-12-25T15:10:49.945-06:00I'd agree with your choices straight down the ...I'd agree with your choices straight down the line. Oscar did pretty well with its nominees this year remarkably. The Return of the Secaucas Seven would be the film I'd say was the most worthy of note besides the ones you already mentioned. <br /><br />Tess is a beautiful film to look at but I didn't care much for it either. The story behind the making, Sharon Tate left a copy of the book behind with a note for Polanski saying she thought he could make a good film out of it when she left London for the last time before her murder, the film carries the simple dedication "For Sharon" at the end of the credits, is more touching than anything on the screen.<br /><br />I'd say I'd switch Coal Miner's and Raging Bull's positions since I don't like RB much at all but aside from Sissy I'm not much for her film either. I've never really thought about since I haven't watched Ordinary People lately but that is a very true statement about its timelessness. <br /><br />The thing that gets me is how People was such a magnet for nominations and poor Donald Sutherland who was an equal to the others once again was ignored.joel65913https://www.blogger.com/profile/14526657073681774683noreply@blogger.com