tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post4712672322984838229..comments2024-03-27T21:42:56.131-05:00Comments on 1001plus: Cut from a Different ClothSJHoneywellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-1036457257130402212013-06-24T14:48:32.337-05:002013-06-24T14:48:32.337-05:00I accept that I'm in the minority on this film...I accept that I'm in the minority on this film and on the ending in particular.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-2193763182906036772013-06-24T11:41:18.747-05:002013-06-24T11:41:18.747-05:00Your take on this film is very interesting, especi...Your take on this film is very interesting, especially since it is one of my favourite Burton movies. I really need to re-watch in light of your comments. <br /><br />While I agree that the ending is not what we want to see, I always thought it was the most fitting ending. Perhaps it's overly manipulative, but as a tragedy, I thought it worked. Klaushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05006608076041962884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-89674025423082341712013-06-20T11:19:48.526-05:002013-06-20T11:19:48.526-05:00I agree with you on Easy Rider, which has an endin...I agree with you on <i>Easy Rider</i>, which has an ending far out of proportion to the rest of the film and in a good way. I like <i>Night of the Living Dead</i> stem to stern, though, but I'll agree that the end is really the best part, if only for the insane level of nihilism. <br /><br />Obviously, as Chip's comment above indicates, opinions vary on this one. I just don't buy the ending as given because I don't buy it from the characters. <br /><br />The whole "nail the intro, nail the ending" thing has psychological roots. We tend to remember the first and last things we encounter/see/read/hear and remember a sort of mush in the middle. So, any movie/concert/book/whatever that punks its ending is remembered as being far worse than it would be with even an average ending.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-71906520714818786962013-06-20T08:11:16.015-05:002013-06-20T08:11:16.015-05:00It's been ages since I've seen this film, ...It's been ages since I've seen this film, but maybe, with your comments about the ending, that explains why this film never resonated with me to the extent that pop culture told me it should have. I feel like everyone kept screaming "ZOMG SO GOOOOOOOOOD" and I saw it (and saw it several times, too) and was all, "It's alright. Pretty good." But nothing more. <br /><br />I played in a community band for about five years and the conductor of this particular group would always tell us right before a concert to nail the opening of the piece, because that grabs the audience's attention, and to finish strong, because the ending is the only part the audience will remember. So it is for concerts, so it is for films.<br /><br />I will say that not only is it true that a crap ending can spoil an otherwise awesome film, but that a really staggering ending can elevate an otherwise "decent enough" film. I'm thinking specifically of "Easy Rider" and "Night of the Living Dead" as films whose final five minutes manage to transform the entire story into something much more than the rest of the story.siochembiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11487373396181856763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-63623143391878999562013-06-20T00:03:10.108-05:002013-06-20T00:03:10.108-05:00I get the ending, I just hate it. In fact, I get t...I get the ending, I just hate it. In fact, I get the ending in exactly the way you've described it--it's just an ending that I find really objectionable because it's so completely different from any action I would take. Kim is smart enough to figure something out. I guess ultimately I found the ending...too simple for other options I'd prefer.<br /><br />Why do I own it? Technically, I don't. I watched the copy owned by my kids. SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-80206832360964681912013-06-19T23:55:58.172-05:002013-06-19T23:55:58.172-05:00When I gave this four out of five stars and referr...When I gave this four out of five stars and referred to it as the best movie Burton had done, you commented then that you hated the actions of Ryder's character, so I've been waiting since then to see your review of this to find out what it was.<br /><br />First, let me say that I completely understand how a bad ending can ruin an entire movie. <br /><br />SPOILERS<br /><br />I have to say that I disagree with you on the ending - and I'm usually the guy who wants the happy ending. In fact, your reaction to the end of this brings to mind my reaction to the end of Once - I hated it and it ruined the entire movie for me.<br /><br />Here's why this ending doesn't bother me - unlike Once it's obvious it's going to be tragic almost from the beginning (you mentioned the parallels to Frankenstein.) Kim comes to the realization that for Edward's own safety he MUST stay away from the world that will misunderstand and hate him. That extends even to her. If she's seen sneaking up to that house over and over to visit him people will know that she lied about Edward being dead and they'll go back and really kill him. The two can't just leave because the people in that neighborhood are a microcosm of the entirety of humanity, all of whom would react in a similar manner to Edward. Yes, she could move away to at least put some distance between herself and Edward, but maybe she can't bring herself to do it. The final scene of the film, with Edward's gesture to her delivering snow is the only way that he can ever do anything for her (safely) and her telling her grandchildren the true story is the only thing she can do for him. It's tragic, but in a touching way. That's why I like it a lot. In fact, I love the final scene.<br /><br />END SPOILER<br /><br />Just for my own curiosity - why do you own a movie you dislike?Chip Laryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00787403805554027107noreply@blogger.com