tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post8834619629677292368..comments2024-03-27T21:42:56.131-05:00Comments on 1001plus: The 46th StateSJHoneywellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-76708556989692827512016-01-05T09:04:07.715-06:002016-01-05T09:04:07.715-06:00It has its issues. The "kill yourself" s...It has its issues. The "kill yourself" section is really dark and really unpleasant.SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-77828885635445485262016-01-05T06:47:38.771-06:002016-01-05T06:47:38.771-06:00I am entirely with you and Chip on the Jud charact...I am entirely with you and Chip on the Jud character. I disliked Curly, the dancing and very clean cowboy already, but when he suggests to Jud that he kill himself I was disgusted. The fact that the movie wants us to like this prick decided it for me. <br />Because the movie has made up its mind on the lonesome and brooding dude it sends him on a murderous path, one he actually does not deserve.<br /> TSorensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12208153011927807857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-64565887493143286272013-10-17T15:05:18.574-05:002013-10-17T15:05:18.574-05:00Thanks for the link. I also watched Surrey with a...Thanks for the link. I also watched Surrey with a Fringe on Top. It never occurred to me to look for vids of him performing it on Youtube. I had assumed it was an local Australian production that no one would have taped since he wasn't famous yet.Chip Laryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00787403805554027107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-74062477801646460052013-10-17T08:27:34.374-05:002013-10-17T08:27:34.374-05:00I've heard the Texas version. Same punchline, ...I've heard the Texas version. Same punchline, but the question is: <br /><br />Why do all the trees in Texas point north?SJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-28127959304724608552013-10-17T04:58:31.095-05:002013-10-17T04:58:31.095-05:00A Nebraskan friend of mine tells the following rid...A Nebraskan friend of mine tells the following riddle:<br /><br />Q: Why doesn't Texas break off and fall into the Gulf?<br />A: Because Oklahoma sucks.<br /><br />Oh, what a beautiful morning...Kevin Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01328790917314282058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-65738016621896312272013-10-16T13:54:12.603-05:002013-10-16T13:54:12.603-05:00Wow, that's a lot to parse.
I agree on Jud, t...Wow, that's a lot to parse.<br /><br />I agree on Jud, though. The rest of the community is pretty harsh when it comes to Jud, and we don't know which came first. He is given pretty rough treatment throughout. I didn't go into specifics on Curly's intent here--I mention it briefly, but that scene in the smokehouse where he tries to convince Jud to hang himself is really, really dark. Again, this is our romantic hero we're talking about, and he's trying to convince another person to kill himself. It's far darker than I'd have believed. But that's also why Jud's actions at the end work--he goes way too far, but we've got evidence that he was driven to it.<br /><br />I wondered about dubbing Grahame, too. It would seem like the natural thing to have someone else sing the songs and have her just lip synch them. I mean, the dubbed Harry Goddam Belafonte for <i>Carmen Jones</i>, you'd think they might come up with the solution to dub the poor tone deaf woman who couldn't carry a tune if it came with a handle.<br /><br />Regarding Hugh Jackman, yes and again yes.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNEUtN21cuUSJHoneywellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550007053995112090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3166297507174717122.post-91405328723961942522013-10-16T11:35:05.300-05:002013-10-16T11:35:05.300-05:00The first thing I noticed about this film was how ...The first thing I noticed about this film was how beautiful Shirley Jones was. I had only known her as the mother on The Patridge Family when I was little. Since this film I've seen her in Elmer Gantry and Carousel and she looked damn good in them, too.<br /><br />The second thing I noticed was that dark undercurrent. In addition to Jud's menace, there's also everyone's menace towards him. I actually felt sorry for him for a while. I can't condone what he finally does, but look at it from his perspective. A woman he likes agrees to go with him to the social only because she wants to hurt another man. When they finally do go all she does is complain on the way. She then steals his horse and carriage, making him have to run miles through the hot plains to get to the dance. Once there EVERYBODY conspires against him to keep him from having the winning bid for her, um, box. And the guy they all want to see get it is the same man that just tried to convince Jud to kill himself via a song. I don't care how emotionally stable you are, have all those things happen to you and you might start thinking murderous thoughts, too.<br /><br />I agree that many of the numbers are showstoppers. I was surprised by how many songs I recognized. And I agree on Grahame's singing. I read that they literally pieced her songs together a syllable at a time in the recording studio. I'm frankly surprised they just didn't dub her. That was a very common practice at the time. A few people had entire careers in musicals without ever singing a note of their own songs.<br /><br />And on a final note, you also saw Les Miserables recently. One of the first articles I read about Hugh Jackman when he became famous after playing Wolverine in X-Men is that one of his first big breaks as an actor was a stage production of Oklahoma where he played Curly. Can't you see him in that role? I think he'd have been perfect, although he'd be too old for it now.Chip Laryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00787403805554027107noreply@blogger.com