Saturday, August 23, 2014

New List Entries?

So word is out about the newest edition of the 1001 Movies, although there’s not much of a stir in the 1001 Movies blogging community. No one, for instance, has a new list order or confirmation that the 13 proposed additions are the real thing. Still, rumors like this in the past have been pretty solid and while this is really heavy in the non-English category, I can’t really see why I shouldn’t assign some credibility to this. Here are the movies alleged to be in the new version of the book:

Nostalgia de la Luz (Nostalgia for the Light) (2010)
The Act of Killing (2012)
Blancanieves (2012)
12 Years a Slave (2013)
American Hustle (2013)
La Vie d’Adele Chapitres 1 & 2 (Blue is the Warmest Color) (2013)
Gravity (2013)
La Grande Bellezza (The Great Beauty) (2013)
Inside Llewyn Davis(2013)
Nebraska (2013)
Tian Zhu Ding (A Touch of Sin) (2013)
Wadjda (2013)
The Wolf of Wall Street (2013)

It seems to me that it I should start watching these despite most of them not being a part of my various Oscar lists. So, I’m going to try to knock out one a week until they are confirmed as being the new entries on The List. If they are, I’ll keep going. If not, well, I’ll deal with that when I get there.


  1. I guess this is as good a spot as any to bring up the big question, one that Chip alluded to in his post that announced these after they were posted on the wiki: After the new edition comes out and we get the actual ordering of these new ones, how are we going to update our lists to add them, in particular the 2010 and 2012 additions? Are we just going to add them to the end of their years like we did before the 10th edition or are we going to reorder 2010 and on to fit whatever the new "official" order is? I'm for the former, but I understand how it could be confusing, especially since we went with the 10th edition as the new base. Also, what about the removals? Do we leave them be, or do we remove them and tack them onto the end of their years like we did for the 10th? Basically, the question is; are we just going to add the new ones onto the end of their respective years, or are we going to have to treat this new book as the "base" list in order to take into account the additions and removals as they now are?

    1. That's a damn fine question. I don't ever actually remove anything from the list. Once on, always on in my book. In terms of the order, I think it makes sense to see where the new films are in the newest edition and number them accordingly.

      I'll be completely honest--I'm lazy when it comes to this. Someone will propose a numbering system and I'll shrug and assume that it's close enough to canon to work for me and reorder my own list in the same way. I'm easy about stuff like that and not really that concerned about caring too much about what film is which number.

    2. I would suggest consistency - since we went to the time and effort to switch to a new system of numbering the entries we should now keep it. That would mean moving the removed entries to the ends of their respective years, adding the new ones in where they appear in the book, and renumbering from there. I pointed that out as a consequence of the new system - a larger effort each subsequent year - and people factored that in when choosing the new way to go last year. (Or they ignored that since they figured they would worry about it in the future.)

    3. I have no problem with that. It makes sense to keep the years together as much as possible.

  2. Wow... I've actually already seen 9 of those movies: The Act of Killing, 12 Years a Slave, American Hustle, Blue is the Warmest Color, Gravity, Inside Llewyn Davis, Nebraska, Wadjda, and Wolf of Wall Street.

  3. Here's a suggestion: start with Inside Llewyn Davis, Nebraska, and The Wolf of Wall Street since those are also Oscar nominees for Best Picture and if for some reason they are not in the new edition you've still knocked them off for the Oscars list.

    I don't believe any of the others you have not seen were nominated for any of the Oscar lists you are doing, although I would definitely have nominated Adele Exarchopoulus for Best Actress for Blue is the Warmest Color.

    (And don't believe the hyperbole about "the 10 minute long sex scene". One scene runs about 6.5 minutes, and that's including the kissing, and with two others there might be a TOTAL of 10 minutes of sex scenes... in a 180 minute film. There's just as many minutes spent showing people eating spaghetti, but for some reason no one seems to write long passages commenting on how much time is spent on that.)

    For what it's worth, I've now seen three of the five films I hadn't at the time I made my post on these additions - Blancanieves, Wadjda, and A Touch of Sin. I liked the middle one the most. I may knock off the other two before the end of this month because one is streaming on Netflix and the other is at the top of my DVD queue.

    1. Blue is the Warmest Color has been on my streaming queue for months, so I'd like to knock it out. It's one I genuinely want to see anyway, so I'll probably do it next. Since a part of my always wants to knock out the long stuff right away, my plan was for that and Wolf of Wall Street in the next couple of weeks.

      Inside Llewyn Davis isn't on any of my lists. None of the Oscars I currently care about had it as a nomination.

    2. Oops. I was thinking ILD was a Best Picture nominee for some reason. My bad.

      The Wolf of Wall Street was actually the film I enjoyed the most from among the nine Best Picture nominees.

    3. Based on everything I've heard about it, I'm a little surprised it wasn't nominated myself. I'll watch it eventually anyway--I need to catch up on my missing Coen films.

  4. Seems like a believable list. I'm a bit surprised but rather pleased to see Blancanieves on there - I loved it, but it seemed to come and go without making much of a ripple.

    1. It's really heavy on the non-English language front, heavier than I expect, but I don't see a real reason to doubt its veracity.

      Blancanieves is currently streaming, so I'll likely hit it soon.